TheVaultDweller 02:15, 18 September 2007 (UTC), Does anybody else think this article gets vandalized too much? would be better phrased as follows, or better yet re-written entirely by someone more familiar with the important details: Nestor Makhno's Ukrainian anarchist movement, the Black Army, allied to the Bolsheviks thrice. Search inside document . Please be assured that I am immune to all insults and personal attacks of this nature. Lenin? One interesting thing about the names of wars is taking into consideration the people on either side. Perhaps a small and pedantic point, but one which, I think, affects the general esteem readers may have for Wikipedia: what's wrong with the following sentence? First off, I see both 'Tsar' and 'Czar' in this article, and I think we should try to decide on just one title. White Guard 07:29, 12 October 2006 (UTC). The first modern zoo, built in 1793, opened in Paris, France. GREAT RESISTANCE PATRIOTS LAUNCH COUNTER OFFENSIVE AGAINST COMMUNIST REVOLUTION, "the world is a mess, the world is as angry as it gets, what you think this is going to cause a little more anger? It seems to me that the idea of having one historical topic entry, and another separate timeline of the same topic, is a good clear division. 2 | MIRN, Revolution the ONLY Solution pt. Just to elaborate my comments, the following is the passage from the article: Lenin and Trotsky said that the goal of socialism in Russia would not be realized without the success of the world proletariat in other countries, e.g. The bread ration in St Petersburg at the end of 1917 was around 50 grams a day. White Guard 01:06, 16 September 2006 (UTC), ”Lenin authorized the execution of children. Download now. The Paul Mazursky link also extended to Lenny Baker (who was unforgettably good in Mazursky's '50s-set valentine, Next Stop Greenwich Village ) and was the nerdy comic lead here. The October Revolution was led by Vladimir Lenin and was based upon Lenin's writing on the ideas of Karl Marx, a politcal ideology often known as Marxism-Leninism. seized power from the Provisional Government that had been put in place by the liberals, "Many leftists claim that Stalin's model of socialism (also known as Stalinism) was closer to state capitalism than actual Marxist socialism. 40, July 1999 Something unremarkable happened on June 28, 1969 in New York's Greenwich Village, an event which had occurred a thousand times before across the U.S. over the decades. there wasn't enough patriotism in the average peasant to care about distant wars) was very arbitrary, resulting in the conscription of skilled workers - like railroad and factory workers - which then deprived itself of the ability to transport food to cities. ", Yes, it should be "the introduction to this article" -- if someone more acquainted with how things are done could bring it to the attention of the relevant authorities, I'm sure everyone would be pleased. White Guard 01:38, 18 September 2006 (UTC), Source. Clearly this is inadequate. Again I return to the point I made above: the October coup established a Bolshevik dicatatorship; the dictatorship, that is, of professional political subversives, mostly middle-class in origin, like Lenin himself (who was, incidentally, present in Petrograd at the time). I realise that bourgeoise can be used to refer to just plain bourgeoisie as an alternative meaning, but the implication that the Duma was primarily female seems unnecessary and confusing (unless it is true, of course, which I don't know about). Citation? Sadly, this is mere example of the vast flaws with this article, and I intend to spend some time in the future changing other lines. It was called, literally, "The Provisional Government", and it wasn't formed - it was several Duma members, led by Prince Lvov, who refused the move to dissolve. The Bolshievik Revolution is correct. 18.104.22.168. Leninism is bastard Marxism, just as Marxism is bastard Hegelianism. If anyone has any comments or objections, please let me know. I have found this website which contains documents (mostly English) about the Russian Revolution. --Kolia. Next you state that 'Soviet democracy' is a 'perversion' of Marxism? Lawyers, criminologists and historians just laugh at Anton's articles about Lenin, Revolution, and others. not to throw around 'ideological termenology' (sic). 2. The financial and logistical assistance of German intelligence via their key agent, Alexander Parvus was a key component as well. the world. I realised that there were people who labelled the Russian Revolution as a "revolution for gays", and WWI as a "war of gays". The sexual revolution suitable for family audiences--a suburban New Jersey rethink of Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice. Ortolan88 19:32 Jan 25, 2003 (UTC), Does anybody know what's this about in relation to Russia? A mod should really edit-lock this. 1956 Hungary Revolution, https://www.youtube.com/channe....l/UCjzdqCtcia_ThRO-D. Sin embargo, hasta este d�a, esta edici�n est� conforme a opini�nes que est�n en conflicto sobre la historia comunista al lado de los varios grupos y partidos marxistas. B) What was Lenin's -post-, it wasn't "leader". NewSocialOrder. More to the point, I despise all forms of Communism as a monsterous perversion of the human spirit; yes, evil, if you prefer. Correct me if I'm wrong. It doesn't appear to have any sourcing at all, so it's almost like someone's just assumed all the details in. Online Version: Marxists Internet Archive, 2002, 2003. Nikolai signed a letter stating less than abdication. “These are the main points of fact with which I take issue; now for the political accusations made aginst me. Thank you. --Taw, Good idea -- both should be used, and a link to an explanation of the difference should be put in also. i am writing a paper so i plan to spend some time here over the next few weeks (JTB01 (talk) 06:20, 15 August 2008 (UTC)), "How can any cyclopedic source guarantee that almost anyone felt anything? Various words are being subed out for other words, and it takes alot of thought just to realise when somebody has replaced a word with something that has nothing to do with the subject. I have always known that those incapable of serious debate are invariably reduced to meaningless insults, and are almost always unmaned by their spluttering rage. The first revolution has always been known as the "February Revolution", and the second has always been known as the "October Revolution". I've now made the corrections. Needless to say, the South lost the war. In various dictionaries, bourgeoise is given as a female member of the bourgeoisie -- is this a typo? This is patently incorrect: the peasant riots ('unrest' or 'disturbances' are frequent descriptors) were over the issue of land ownership; that they still had to pay dues to what were usually noble landowners. Jump to Page . original vid https://youtu.be/7O1AKGJOc2A Little Revolution 2;s channel https://www.youtube.com/channe....l/UCjzdqCtcia_ThRO-D Patrick Little. The Wikipedia 25/10/17 entry is correct. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Oliverwk (talk • contribs). You can't tell me to "see Cambridge history of Russia." Don't get me wrong, I agree with but just wanted to point out that they can be called different things depending on the person's POV. Nicholas II did abdicate from being tsar over all Russia, but he did not do it for the Provisional Government to be in charge, he did it naming (originally his son Alexei, then changing it) his brother Grand Duke Mikhail as the next tsar, but Mikhail refused. In 1914 the government of Tsar Nicholas was as popular as ever; it took the war to destroy it. I am not. I would benefit from someone doing this... maybe someone else would too, Edit request of the moving picture at the head of this article, Edit request from 22.214.171.124, 1 April 2010, Edit request from Elliebell15, 30 October 2010, Edit request from 126.96.36.199, 6 November 2010, http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Февральская_революция, Kriminalistichesky examination of photos of Lenin, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Russian_Revolution/Archive_1&oldid=879706684, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License. This article is one of a number selected for the early stage of the trial of the Wikipedia:Pending Changes system on the English language Wikipedia. The police raided a gay bar. ", This sentence was inserted by an anon editor at the end of the article, after the bibliography: Popular article: http://www.cneat.ru/lenin.html , --Antn-Samara (talk) 15:38, 12 May 2010 (UTC), Kriminalistichesky examination of photos of Lenin --Antn-Samara (talk) 15:38, 17 June 2010 (UTC), I wish to draw public attention in the Russian Wikipedia Antn-Samara banned. You keep using the term democracy like there is some pure platonic 'form' of it. Others state that this was simply an excuse for Stalin and his followers to push back democratic gains won during the revolution and consolidate his bureaucratic dictatorship. The following request appears on that page: Comments on the suitability of theis page for "Penfding changes" would be appreciated. Each chapter reinterprets key issues and debates, including political, social, cultural and international aspects of the Russian revolution stretching from the late imperial period to the early Soviet state. Initially the Great War was greated with the same mass enthusiasm as elsewhere in Europe. I am sorry if you do not like my 'billgergant' (sic) and 'subjective' view, but I am afraid that you will just have to tolerate it. Having raised a question Stalin style, so to speak, let me answer in the same style: it was the exclusion from representative politics of all who took a contrary view to the Bolsheviks, sometimes by sending them to concentration camps, and sometimes by murder. The Russian Revolution effected, most importantly, Asian interaction with the Western world, forever changing it. I think that the book should be in the Pertaining Literature section since the book is effectively about communism; it goes from the initial revolution right through to the betrayal of the leaders.--188.8.131.52 (talk) 21:04, 16 January 2010 (UTC), That would belong in the article about Stalinism or Stalin, but not on the revolution itself, if it belongs anywhere. More to the point, I despise all forms of Communism as a monsterous perversion of the human spirit; yes, evil, if you prefer. This really ought to be added in. I think since on Wikipedia "Czar" and "Tzar" all redirect to Tsar, we should use that. O Scribd é o maior site social de leitura e publicação do mundo. I think it would be better to stress in this section that the SRs and Anarchists were unable to oppose the Bolsheviks in the -soviet democracy- and thus turned to sabtoage, terrorism, and counter-revolutionary alliances with the exhiled White Army. - Rory. The writing? Revolution of 1917 in Russia: Vladimir Ulyanov and Nikolaj Lenin are different persons. 184.108.40.206 19:24, 14 September 2006 (UTC)Fun_ender. liberal key-word for 'free' and 'democractic') is a bit off. It also only skims over Bloody Sunday, which directly influenced the October Manifesto, which created the above expectations that democracy would be achieved. I think that the notion that that the February Revolution was a 'sporadic' (i.e. White Guard 00:12, 4 September 2006 (UTC), -Both of these statements are examples of bias. Seriously; The Soviet Union fell almost 18 years ago; surely we have more information on this. I've seen it on other articles, cant we do that here? ", The confusion regarding Stalin's position on the issue stems from the fact that he, after Lenin's death in 1924, successfully used this argument of Lenin's to defeat his competitors within the party by accussing them of betraying Lenin and, therefore, the ideals of the October Revolution. I just deleted something about the Soviet Union fearing Krishna and the Hindu Gods! The Driving Force Behind the Russian Revolution of 1917- The driving power behind the Russian Revolution which you find it was not Russian in any sense it was the capture of Russia by Jews of the Greasiest Type. Also, that the Bolsheviks, once a minority in the soviets, were a immense majority by Nov. On November 7, 1917, Bolshevik leader Vladimir Lenin led his leftist revolutionaries in a revolt against the ineffective Provisional Government (Russia was still using the Julian Calendar at the time, so period references show an October 25 date). I would do it myself, but I lack proper sources. A simple photograph of Lenin would be much more effective and much less bothersome than this trite, stilted, very short moving picture. "The people of Russia resented the autocracy of Nicholas II". Leninism is bastard Marxism, just as Marxism is bastard Hegelianism. 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